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I'm rewatching Lost again and I may retract my housing of Jack into Slytherin... we'll see
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Jack Shephard - Slytherin - I know this is unconventional, but Jack's way of caring about people is out of a feeling of duty and responsibility, thus putting people into his care before actually caring about them. He focuses a lot on what he thinks is the best thing to do in terms of pros and cons, and automatically doubts (and continues doubting) people who want to do things that may put other people in danger for The Greater Good. He's not brave and heart-led as much as he's strategic and cold; he doesn't care about gathering information/intellectuality/rationalization as much as he does taking action and relying on empirical truth; and like I said he doesn't necessarily care about people, but that his position as a doctor puts him in a certain type of responsibility. Whether he knows it or not, Jack is a self-centered guy who, throughout the show, needs to let other people's perspectives into his life. But this is evidence of his Slytherin values, of pure ambition and - well, I wouldn't say cunning, but His way of doing things right.
Kate Austen - Slytherin
Sawyer/James Ford - Gryffindor - Yeah he's sarcastic and a dick but those aren't Slyth qualities! He leads with his heart more than Jack does (see above); while he does seem to care about himself a lot and only begins to care about people when he lets them in, a lot of the decisions he makes seem to be based on pure feeling than him actually thinking about pros/cons. He does not simply care about the people he cares about just because he's let them in; once he learns how to use his heart with direction and care (and also overcome his trauma), he is very, very capable with others, leading them, and taking the largest risks possible to follow what his feelings say.
Juliet Burke - Ravenclaw
John Locke - Gryffindor
Ben Linus - Slytherin (this is so obvs)
Sayid Jarrah - Slytherin (select loyalist not genuine one)
Sun-Hwa Kwon - Slyther/claw
Jin Kwon - Hufflepuff
Charlie - Gryffindor
Desmond Hume - Gryffindor
Penny Widmore - Ravenclaw
Hurley Reyes - Hufflepuff pls don't argue with anyone on this bc if u do ur in denial
Claire Littleton - Hufflepuff
Jacob - Ravenclaw but also a fucking idiot whom I love
Boone Carlyle - Gryffindor
Shannon Rutherford - Gryffindor
Ana Lucia Cortez - Slytherin obvs
Ol' Smokey - Slytherin, pls. Would also make room for Ravenclaw tbh
Richard Alpert - Ravenclaw
Danielle Rousseau - Slytherin
Alex Rousseau - Hufflepuff
Miles Straume - I want to say Slytherin but also he's not that attached to people he cares about tbh. Ravenclaw would fit best even though his attitude "seems" Slytherin-ish
Charlotte Lewis - Sticking her in Ravenclaw to be with her boys
Daniel Faraday - Ravenclaw

Dipper - Ravenclaw (INTP)
Mabel - Hufflepuff (ENFP)
Grunkle Stan - Slytherin (too loyal to people he cares about while completely apathetic to nearly everyone else to be a Puff) (ENTJ)
Soos - Hufflepuff (ENFP)
Wendy - Gryffin/Claw (ESTP)
Bill - Slytherin (ENTJ)
Gideon - Slytherin probs (ENTJ)
Ford - Ravenclaw (INTJ)
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The auxiliary function is always, always values. They value whatever is in their aux position, whether it is endless possibilities (Ne), being productive (Se), quantitative reliance (Si), what now means for later (Ni), making goals and executing them (Te), impacting others (Fe), the self's inner values and wants (Fi), or internally followed logic (Ti.)

Before you type a character a certain way, examine what their auxiliary function may be - does their auxiliary function seem to be important to them? Or is it simply used, like a dominant or tertiary function?
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Regardless of the internet's overall frequent misinterpretations of MBTI (I blame the elementary way it's often summarized; I'm much more into socionics theory than academic MBTI theory due to that socionics tends to flesh things out more and measures people's functions based on interrelations and behavior wrt cognition), graphs like these actually highlight the usage of functions well:



Whenever I type people/characters/whatsoever, I usually keep an eye out for dominant and tertiary functions. This image implies - but doesn't state - and I've also seen here and there, that the dominant and tertiary functions tend to be the most prominent in behavior. When I was first learning about cognitive functions, I'd read that the dominant function is the thing you use the most naturally, without question; the tertiary function is what you use without question, but not as naturally.

It's interesting, and paves a way to my theory of this:
(which I've also seen implied here and there among abstract posts about cognitive functions)

Dominant and tertiary functions are what you do. Auxiliary and inferior functions are why you do them.

Obviously I don't mean this literally; but it's more in that while you "externally" use either your dominant or tertiary function, your internal procedure is more keyed on the auxiliary and/or inferior function.

ExxJ vs IxxJ, and tertiary functions



When it comes to typing, this is why I tend to seek the tertiary function, or at least have a couple of contenders. (Usually I can distinguish the functions that are either dominant or tertiary; it's positioning that sometimes takes me a while.) I have seen typings of characters that I find to be obvious IxTJs as ExTJs, possibly because of the aggression of a Te. But in the case of STJs the characters I find to be "obvious" ISTJs do not have tertiary Ne at all, because their Ne is something that they reject, or are hard to consolidate with, or only come during moments of panic - inferior at worst.

As for INTJs vs ENTJs, I think it's really a matter of taking into consideration that since INTJs have Te auxiliary, it's a likelihood that in instances they are militant and emotionless, it's completely deliberate, whereas for an ENTJ it would just seem more "natural," as in the idea of them being otherwise is bizarre and unnatural to them. Contrary to popular belief, INTJs have more flavor in this area, both in this choice to exercise their auxiliary Te in an intentional way, and also the tertiary Fi. People often talk about INTJs like they've forgotten that the INTJ's instinctive yet unnatural function is introverted feeling. But we'll get to tertiary functions in any introvert later.

I find there to be similar issues between the I/E dichotomy with NFJs. (Hilariously enough, most people can at least distinguish an ISFJ from an ESFJ.) I have seen many characters/people - usually women, mind you - typed as ENFJs, when I would highly oppose the idea that the person in question has inferior Ti. It's because the thing about IxFJs is similar to that of IxTJs - their aggression or friendliness or whatever that may make them seem like their extroverted counterpart (i.e. leading with Fe or Te) when it's really not that simple. With an ExFJ, the constant awareness of others and how one's (or other's) behaviors affects others is, like the ExTJ, a natural mode. To think or behave otherwise is foreign concept to the ExFJ.

The IxFJ, like the IxTJ, is deliberately friendly, or concerned about others, or what have you. They do not behave friendly and invested in others because it's their natural way of thinking, but because it's highly important to them. When interacting with an IxFJ, you get a stronger sense of how much they do (or don't) care about how others live their lives and interact with each other - plus, with that tertiary Ti, they're also awfully good at justifying whatever they say due to this. On the other hand, when interacting with an ExFJ, comparatively you get a stronger sense of how externally aware they are - usually external social awareness - more than anything else. Of course, this doesn't mean "socially competent" (although the average ExFJ is likely to have the most socially competent people), but the mere aspect of focusing outwardly, judging first by any ethical implications around them.

ExTP and ExFP, and tertiary/auxiliary judging functions



When it comes to ExTPs and ExFPs, it can often be tricky in choosing whether they're one or the other (F vs. T.) Sometimes it may feel obvious, but I think the most important thing is to compare if they're aux Ti/tert Fe, or aux Fi/tert Te. An ENTP (I would say looping, but I think an average ENTP is prone to this too) may look like an ENFP by how "random" and enthusiastic they are. However, because of an ENTP's tertiary Fe, it's likely that they're doing this on purpose - that they want to get a rise out of people, that they are desperate for attention (however buried down it may be). An ENTP is aggressive in this.

And it's not to say that ENTPs are rude and ENFPs are sensitive. It's intention. Despite the Fe doing things for/around people, because the Fe is tertiary, the ENTP struggles more with being socially aware - that is, recognizing that what they're saying/doing works, how people react to what they're doing, thinking about how what they do/say impacts others. The tertiary Fe tries extremely hard to be used, but unlike the ExFJ, the average/unhealthy tert Fe lacks the subsequent awareness in being used.

But the tertiary Fe does not come in just forms of calls of attention - it can come out through complete apathy, in which the user convinces themselves that they don't need to be concerned with how they affect others; or caretaking, in which the user tries very hard to protect and provide for people around them. Again, though they may behave these ways, the downside of any tertiary function is consequential awareness.

And like any F in any type, the tertiary Fe is highly selective and protective of those they care about.

The auxiliary Fi is different. People tend to assume that hyper, enthusiastic, random, happy, and usually loud characters are ExFPs, ENFPs more (if the character is ubiquitously happy.) And they're not always wrong.

(I will write a post on dom Se vs dom Ne at some point - that's another distinction I want to discuss.)

However, what sets the loud ExFP apart from the loud ExTP is that there is more... sincerity. (Sorry looping ExTPs.) An ExFP is behaving as such because that's themselves, they're choosing to do so because they want to. Where the obnoxious ExTP is prone to feel more performative or doesn't regularly appear to have some strong internal value driving them, the obnoxious ExFP is just Like That.

Like everyone who knows cognitive functions knows, Fi is largely based on internal self-awareness and personal values/ethics. When it comes to being in the auxiliary (or inferior) function, it is less used and more of a backdrop. What the ExFP and the ExTP have in common is that they are both aware of how they want to affect other people. However, the ExFP uses their (objective) tertiary Te to exert whatever it is they are exerting (usually activities/projects/ideas), while their auxiliary Fi a) knows how they want to affect people, and b) is aware of how they affect people, due to being in a "thinking/internal" (aux/inf) position.

It's not to say that auxiliary Fi is superior to tertiary Fe. An ExFP may be more naturally likable than an ExTP (your mileage may vary, of course; I'm just going by general overviews), but once the ExTP utilizes their Ti enough along with their Fe, they will notice patterns and make logical conclusions of how people will react and can easily navigate their way through a social atmosphere. Conversely, a looping ExFP may ignore personal values and their aux Fi will instead depend on external values/situations rather than self-generated emotions, ideas, and principles.

A looping ExFP is unique in that they tend not to look like their more average counterparts at all. Of course, I can say this about any type - but I feel like, for example, with an ISFJ, you still get some sort of idea that they are an ISFJ despite their being in an Si-Ti loop.* However, a looping ExFP tends to look extremely apathetic, indulging themselves in something they externally act on that they know will not guarantee in making them happy. This is the tertiary Te - usually a looping ExFP is overindulging in creating and performing objectives that their Fi does not genuinely and fully want without some sort of unhealthy motivation. Due to whatever is buried deep down within their auxiliary Fi - whether it's insecurity, trauma, need for attention - that is what's driving them. A looping ExFP knows exactly what they're doing! They also likely know why but try to ignore that reality. And yet, when presented with an issue, situation, or person they care about, they can easily access those emotions internally because their auxiliary Fi is still auxiliary Fi.

(I've been obsessed with the Good Place recently and there is a certain character there who I keep seeing typed as a T when I am pretty sure it is a looping auxiliary Fi.)

I dislike calling auxiliary Fi users "sensitive," although that's what they are in a more literal sense. Their static Fi both knows who they are and how what they do may impact others. An ENFP who gets into an argument knows they are, and knows they will get a rise out of the other person. An ENTP who gets into an argument is either completely unaware, or doesn't care.

So the ability to blatantly ignore that auxiliary function comes with any other type. The thing with ExFPs is that since Fi is basically self-sincerity, ignoring that tends to make them look not like themselves - that is, not like an ExFP and prone to getting mistyped. This is the issue with perhaps bizarre looking extroverts looking like another type... but not quite.

... I absolutely did not mean to make the ExFP vs ExTP portion so long, apologies.

* Loops are not void of the auxiliary function, but rather become extremely subconscious while the user struggles with their dominant & tertiary functions. Despite not being "used", from an outsider's perspective they can still be pretty visible.
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As collaborated with [personal profile] necessarian.

ENFJ - Twisted Ethics/Cult Leader
ENFP - Beast
ENTJ - Big Bad
ENTP - Magnificent Bastard
ESFJ - Anti-Villain
ESFP - Sadist/Savage Predator
ESTJ - Abusive Authority Figure
ESTP - Career Criminal/Mercenary/Hired Guns
INFJ - Rival/Mirror/Nemesis/Archenemy
INFP - Vengeful Villain
INTJ - Traitor
INTP - Evil Genius
ISFJ - Fallen Hero
ISFP - Evil Doppelganger
ISTJ - World Dominator
ISTP - Devil Incarnate

WORKING

Jun. 5th, 2017 07:27 pm
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ORDERED BY EFFICIENCY
* in a vacuum; efficiency defined as doing things the best way possible
** for easier reading: Intuitives value efficiency more, Sensors are more actually efficient
*** Perceivers are more selective with what they're efficient at, Judgers are more focused on being all-around
just because you can't see how effective a Perceiver's work ethic is doesn't mean it's not highly efficient
**** Thinkers are generally both more valuing and more actually efficient than Feelers
***** Sensor-Feelers value efficiency less than their actual work ethic; Intuitive-Thinkers value efficiency more than their actual work ethic (exceptions: INTPs, who are much more selective and depending on their circumstance/growth of work can be mistaken for an INFPs or an INTJ's relationship with work efficiency)

ACTUAL WORK ETHIC* VALUE EFFICIENCY* ALL-AROUND VALUE SELECTIVE IN ACTUALITY
ESTJ ENTJ ISTJ INFP
ISTP ESTJ INTJ INTP
ENTJ INTJ ESTJ ENFP
INTP ISTJ ENTJ ENTP
ISTJ INTP ESTP ISFP
ESTP ISTP ISTP ISTP
INTJ ENTP ENTP ESFP
ENTP ESTP INTP ESTP
ISFJ INFJ INFJ ENFJ
ESFP ISFJ INFP INFJ
ESFJ ENFJ ENFJ ENTJ
ISFP ESFJ ENFP INTJ
INFJ INFP ESFJ ESFJ
ENFP ENFP ISFJ ISFJ
ENFJ ISFP ESFP ESTJ
INFP ESFP ISFP ISTJ

in nuance

Jun. 1st, 2017 08:01 pm
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introverts: the modes that get undersold

intps can be incredibly driven and passionate
infps can be intensely knowledgeable and rational

intjs can be incredibly sociable and adaptable
infjs can be intensely bossy and determined

istjs can be incredibly sociable and passionate
isfjs can be intensely detached and rational

istps can be incredibly driven and adaptable
isfps can be intensely knowledgeable and determined

extroverts: not as simple as an outgoing framework

entps can be two sides of silly and serious
enfps can be two sides of distracted and focused

estjs can be two sides of withdrawn and outgoing
esfjs can be two sides of supportive and aggressive

estps can be two sides of relaxed and anxious
esfps can be two sides of down to earth (outspoken) and dreamy (softspoken)

entjs can be two sides of control freaks and cheerleaders
enfjs can be two sides of sensitive and unbreakable
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everyone talks about like how single-minded extjs are bc of their dom-Te but honestly dom-Tis are... p much the same just in an internal way. literally y'all @ the internet keep treatin dom-Ti like its this soft/ultra introverted thing but honestly dom-Tis have a similar energy as extjs (dom-Tes) it's just not as much task-enforced as it is personal investment enforced
dom-Tis are not the task/leading-types like Te they are more "this is how it is and you'll have to listen to me" if socialized as such non-masculine raised ixtps r prone to being more withdrawn/passive but not necessarily emotional its just that that side of their personality is not encouraged half as much but ixtps & extjs are naturally prone to doing things either a) despite emotions, or b) superficially BECAUSE of emotions, while ixtjs and extps naturally consider ~emotions~ way more than ixtps/extjs.
xtps and ixtjs use emotions like a light switch, extjs/ixtps are like "ok... i guess i know emotions exist??" n its more static

damaged

Apr. 16th, 2017 01:23 am
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damaged mbti types are people who have undergone certain or specific situations wherein their ability to naturally act and react based on their initial cognition has been hindered, externally controlled/influenced, or repressed. includes but is not limited to toxic environments or traumatic situations.

damaged mbti types can be located in that they still exhibit some behavioral qualities of a certain mbti type, and more frequently than not indulge in that personality or action, but this personality only appears on rare occasions and is not necessarily the perceived "norm" for them; either that or they find specific environments wherein this "side" of themselves is allowed to come out, instead of being pressed back. for example, an entj raised in an abusive home may grow to be meek, avoidant, withdrawn, and quiet; but visibly excels in situations wherein they are allowed to lead and do what they want to do in adaptation to their surroundings rather than submitting to it.

being a damaged personality is not necessarily prescriptive by situation or mbti or even choice; the way people consciously or unconsciously react to situations differs, so two people of the same mbti type (or different) and both undergo traumatic experiences may either both turn out to be damaged, neither may be, or one may naturally react to turn out damaged while the other may not. additionally, visibility and prescribing a 'typical' trait to a certain type of damaged mbti is likely not reliable, as damaging, once again, relies on the situations which on an individual basis will still differ from person to person.

damaged mbti people are easily identifiable in the areas where they feel the most visibly comfortable with themselves; this is where "true" evidence of their mbti comes out. also, being damaged may cause extroverts (lead with extroverted function) to appear as introverts (lead with introverted function), and vice versa.

further damaged examples need to be gathered, though my only examples so far are jack frost from rise of the guardians (damaged entp - as visible from flashbacks and his love of "fun," though he spends a lot of time being broody and alone so people may be prone to typing otherwise without taking the damaged qualification into consideration), and myself.

also theory/possibility - damaged mbti types overexert their inferior function??? to consider as compared to a grip
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unhealthy/looping = minimal unconscious use of the auxiliary, which should be used as motivation and in pair with the dominant function. unhealthy people do not not use their auxiliary function necessarily, but they rely on their tertiary function in place where the auxiliary should be. the auxiliary function can still show up but in less conscious/intentional bouts
average/healthy = uses the auxiliary function willingly. pretty typical. more or less most people - i want to say neurotypical, though i don't like conflating mental health and mbti (and some mentally ill people can still be healthy in an mbti sense, and vice versa.) basically, is more conscious/aware of their auxiliary function and uses it pretty much as they should
undeveloped = minimal and struggling to use the inferior function. has not (yet) found how to utilize the inferior function - struggle with it, it's a source of anxiety, etc. usually found with average/healthy, since the typical mbti type when described describes the personality type as healthy but undeveloped. just growing and trying to figure out how to be a more efficient/competent person and how to turn insecurities into something else as a strength.
the inferior function is the least developed function, in that the person can know it's there and ignores it (when undeveloped/not developing), or bring it into their range of focus (developed; see below). despite if they care about it or use it, they know it is their weak point. prone to dismissing it as unnecessary. also prone to over-indulging in it in a superficial way as well under severe stress - severe stress is situational, though, and not on a level of health/development.
developed = regularly accesses the inferior function in a way that brings the function into consciousness (in a superficial way) because the consciousness of it allows the person to focus the rest of their cognitive energies to use their inferior function as motivation/big picture. able to use former weaknesses/insecurities into a point that they want to (and then, do) actively improve on and consider.
grip = tries to use the inferior as dominant (and thusly tertiary as auxiliary), try too hard to be someone they are evidently not instead of trying to improve on whom they already are. often observable as inauthentic by others

people with mood disorders or who experience mania may sometimes utilize their auxiliary as dominant

and -isms

Apr. 2nd, 2017 04:21 pm
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no, not that kind of ism.

S-doms and T-doms are usually very expressively, visibly realistic, hence a natural need to act immediately in response to it - ExTJ, IxTP, ISxJ, ESxP
N-doms and F-doms are much less visibly focused on reality, as they tend to be wary or afraid that vocalizing an abstract fear into a concrete territory will make it real; if anything they tend appear more idealistic - IxFP, ExFJ, INxJ, ENxP

S-auxiliary and T-auxiliary to F-doms and N-doms are actually much more pessimistic than they appear, hence an innate desire to act immediately in response to it. If healthy and not in the grip this will appear as realistic idealism. - ISFP, ESFJ, INTJ, ENTP
N-auxiliary and F-auxiliary to T-doms and S-doms are actually much more optimistic than they appear, usually trusting in that their initial action (as motivated by their dominant function) to sail an abstract course away from their initial pessimism. If healthy and not in the grip this will appear as idealistic realism. - ENTJ, INTP, ISFJ, ESFP

S/T dom auxiliary and T/S dom auxiliary combine their perceived more pessimistic natures into a view they establish more objectively; that is, realism. They both act in the moment and react in the moment, able to perceive or believe in possibilities but still respond to the nature that is in front of them. If healthy and not in the grip they will have ambitions, moral values, and beliefs that they put a lot of themselves into. - ESTJ, ISTP, ISTJ, ESTP
F/N dom auxiliary and N/F dom auxiliary combine their more hopefully abstract natures into a view they establish not necessarily with optimism, but with idealism. Despite what they see is happening now, and despite what they are doing now, they have an inner faith that they cannot explain but that they believe in. Can be but is not always necessarily a spiritual/theistic faith; but they would be nothing without this inspiration. If healthy and not in the grip, they utilize this very strong core belief to motivate them to act and respond concretely and in the moment. - INFP, ENFJ, INFJ, ENFP
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on the internet (and also otherwise), i've seen a lot of people typing characters as enfps because they're hyperactive and/or creative, and esfps because they're athletic and jumpy. this is not prescriptive, first of all, because as stated before, Ne is not based on creativity and Se is not based on physical action, even though there can be a tendency in behavior. but also, as stated before, behavior is not indicative of mbti. a character's psyche must be taken apart and analyzed to observe and determine mbti.

but on the generalization note between esfps and enfps...

esfps love having something to do. whether it's one thing or multiple things, and whether it requires interaction or physicality - it's never about that. it's about a) something to do, and b) something they like doing. esfps love having multiple ideas and options so they can find one to eventually settle on and work for. esfps are relatively good at maintaining not necessarily focus but at least a concentration of what needs to be done and actually doing it. they are good at getting into the work, and pretty much do it right away. they may have a variety of ideas, they may be enthusiastic about a lot of things; but essentially they are really good at sitting down and doing, as long as it's something they care about and like. their aux Fi is used as a support/drive so they can pick and choose what they like and don't like. they actually can be and really value creativity because that brings in a lot of possibilities to find something they do if they haven't settled on something yet. esfps are also prone to ambition (inferior Ni - an end goal in mind), performance anxiety (inferior Ni - worried about the results/plausibility of actions), and jumping into action to do things right away, sometimes well and sometimes too soon (dom Se/tert Te) but with that focus on doing. they are also prone to giving up because their inferior Ni might see the end goal as impossible or too far away.

e.g. gene from bob's burgers, manami from yowapeda, kagami from knb, hinata from haikyuu, dre from black-ish, ron from harry potter, finn from star wars, rin from love live, amethyst from steven universe, beast boy from teen titans (cartoon)

esfps immediately tackle and are good at what they do; that tends to be pretty distinctive of them. they really like new ideas and random shit and can be exuberant, intuitive, creative, and inspiring; but they also all have a similar vibe of wanting to do what they want to do. they need new ideas for this, more than anything.

enfps love new ideas. they're pretty much all over the place both abstractly and concretely. the healthier enfp has settled on one or a few things they like to do, but their ambition is more lighthearted than authentic focus (unless they're in the middle of working, in which case they are nothing but focus.) enfps bounce from possibility to possibility, because they naturally are aware that there are a lot of things they could like or enjoy; enfps are less naturally attuned to tasking than esfps are. enfps are prone to get an idea that they enjoy, idealize doing it, and then never do it. essentially they are really good at exploring a multitude of options even if they never do them, because they feel the need to always be mentally/abstractly/intellectually occupied even if they have nothing to show for it. enfps love new ideas because they are looking for something to do, and require tasks (more than working naturally) - they idealize working regularly, but they are cognitively full of so much that it takes some time for them to sit down and do. their aux Fi picks what they like from the possibilities and their tert Te likes to jump to it right away; they are also prone to giving up if their inferior Si isn't concentrated enough. if/when they do things right away, it's mostly because the idea is so strong to them that they want to see immediate results/their abstraction brought to life (dom Ne/tert Te), which can sometimes be done well or be too soon. their inferior Si is also what allows them to begin to focus on work as long as it pairs well with their aux Fi of what they personally like/enjoy.

e.g. linda from bob's burgers, gina from brooklyn nine nine, mabel from gravity falls, steven from steven universe, bokuto from haikyuu, junior from black-ish, seamus from harry potter, honoka from love live, starfire from teen titans (cartoon)
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u: what the hell is this post
me: i have a perfectly good explanation for this

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ixtj: more highly attuned to their own feelings (which they view subjectively/on an individual basis), prone to be less concerned about Feelings As A Whole depending; if they value feelings it (once again) stems from their value of their own feelings which is then projected onto others; healthily impositional at best but with collateral damage to being controlling/manipulative
ixfj: more highly attuned to Feelings As A Whole, yet disconnected with what they evaluate as their own feelings (which they view more objectively); value emotional effects via rational decisions; cold and emotionless at worst, incredibly sympathetic and seemingly clear-headed at best
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infj: intentionally crafts their memes and regularly posts them, thinks they're hilarious but most of the time they have mediocre notes, there are still a few well-circulated ones though
enfj: states everything they say - even regular daily life stuff - with meme syntax, often tries to create their own deliberate memes but the ones that get popular are the ones where they were just being themselves without intention
enfp: posts memes ALL THE TIME because ALL THEIR MEMES ARE HILARIOUS TO THEM most of the time they get 2 notes except for one obnoxiously popular one which has like 600,000 notes
infp: loves memes, doesn't really have a lot of faith in themselves as a memer but they're actually hilarious and several of their posts get well-circulated among their other posts where they're just complaining about something in their life
entp: also posts memes all the time and thinks they're all hilarious (like the enfp) but sometimes they try too hard to be Memes that only their friends circulate it... One Day, Though, They Will Actually Come Up With The Greatest Meme Of All Time and it'll be so popular and they'll be so excited that the internet will explode
intp: usually bouncing between yelling or fighting on the internet vs memeing that it's pretty much hard to tell which is which. so erratic that their memes look like sincere shit. also so rambly online that a lot of their memes get pushed down anyway and then like an entire month later some popular account will steal their meme which blows up in which case they'll yell about it every time it happens (coughs.) has like 2 popular memes and the rest are pushed down by their yelling. anyway, values memes more than it may sometimes seem
entj: more fond of memes than actively trying to make them but appreciates what memes do. definitely within a community on the internet that is not driven by the force of memes and sometimes they don't think a certain meme is funny. any of their meme popularity is 100% an accident though they're pretty proud of it anyway
intj: wants to create THE BEST AND MOST POPULAR MEME OF ALL TIME but spends 40 years thinking about it, crafting it, creating it, except not really creating or making anything that feels like a Perfect Meme to them and mostly basks in awe at all the other memes while rarely Posting any of their own, though the ones they do (but rarely) post get relatively impressive attention, only prefer being in the meme spotlight when they try to be
esfj: they love memes and try to make their own which aren't that popular but their most circulated posts are the ones where they were talking about something that really happened to them
isfj: really good at sharing and spreading memes to get them to be big, don't really trust themselves to come up with funny memes on their own but still think they're all super hilarious. except for the obviously offensive ones in which case they'll just publicly drag u for like 10 posts, which can end up being the cause of any of their popularity
esfp: doesn't know what a meme is but really likes yelling on the internet (if they ever use it), resulting in dril-like posts but IN ALL CAPS or without punctuation marks which kind of turn into a meme itself; if they're popular they literally do not know, at all
isfp: really did not mean to stumble into meme territory and really they don't think they're that funny but unbeknownst to them they are incredibly popular in the meme community. baffled but still unaware of the influence they have. they're just saying what's on their mind
estp: more lowkey about their meme-loving ass but mostly because they don't really react to it via text/chatspeak, they're mostly just laughing at their computer/phone and then tabbing out without the need to share in a public forum (unless they don't have much of an irl social life, in which case they'll react online as much as anyone else.) they do share it with their friends, though, and the occasional time you see them online/on the internet they will let you know that they appreciate the memes. also, not wholly fond of sharing all their thoughts online as much as probably any other mbti type (unless, once again, it's their most comfortable social life) so very rarely a Meme Curator, though if they do craft any it's usually just One and it's hellishly popular. knows everything about all the other memes anyway
istp: appreciates most memes especially the shitpost-y type (esfp or nfj), will send you 10 memes per hour, will try to make a meme once but give up and just post the word "shit" which gets 10,000 notes anyway
estj: either insists they know more about memes than they really do, or go "what's the point." when they insist they like memes, they actually REALLY LIKE THEM and think they're hilarious. but the other type of estj memer won't find like 80% of the ones you send them funny but one time you'll try to send them a post that's not a meme and they'll think it's hilarious. sometimes try to meme but rarely with the best results; or try too hard when they do. either way, their best meme has like 1,000 notes (sorry dudes)
istj: accidental shitpost, knows like 1 thing about memes and that's their dictionary definition. as much as u try to describe the function of a meme they will not get it. anyway, like all of their posts get 50,000 notes because everything they say sounds unwittingly like a meme
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(written by a friend)

trampolines and rubber bands mirror the complementary nature of function pairs, but they operate in fundamentally different ways. in each case, the elastic object performs a push-and-pull action. when you jump on a trampoline, you can’t go up without going down, and you can’t come down without bouncing back up. when you snap a rubber band, you can’t pull it out without it taking the same shape it did before and you can’t give it a resting shape without the potential to expand. the difference, then, is in intent: do you want to jump, or do you want to land? do you want to expand, or do you want to contract?
Se-Ni is a trampoline: Se launches you upwards, Ni is there to catch you when you fall.
  • if you favour Se, you’re all about leaps of faith, starting from scratch and taking in as much of the world as you can.
  • if you favour Ni, you recognise that there’s a lot to take in, so you want to start with a foundation of as many ideas as possible.
Ne-Si is a rubber band: Ne pulls the band outwards, Si pulls it back in.
  • if you favour Ne, you’re all about expanding, starting with a foundation of ideas and stretching it as far as it will go.
  • if you favour Si, you recognise that the world is full of so many ideas and you want to keep them in order as best you can.
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Ne doms live with a love and fascination to learn, even if not necessarily in an academic sense. they love to absorb new information and are just as enthusiastic about spitting it out
-- this can be in a practical or philosophical or academic or hobbyish or otherworldly (in fantasy/scifi contexts) way
-- they lead life with a (usually pretty visible) interest in finding things they don't already know, sometimes amounting to "ideas" for projects, which is emphasized less on the project itself but the mere idea of it
-- it can look like an almost constant fascination in everything, or an enthusiastic and captivated interest in a single thing, or being always mentally removed from the real world when really the Ne-dom in question is usually both always in their own world and always in the real world

Se doms live with a love and fascination to do and participate, even if not necessarily in a physical/action-y sense. they love to have things to do even if they don't always get them done
-- this can be in a creative or artistic or abstract way THIS IS NOT JUST PHYSICAL; JOKERS AND CREATIVES CAN BE SE-DOMS
-- they lead life with an interest to Do, although it's not particularly visible as say an Ne-dom because Doing requires no verbals, just presence. just as much as the Ne-dom, this amounts to projects, emphasized on the project itself; or an activity, or just participation within a thing itself. Se-dom is not locatable by a lack of creativity or presence of physical exertion - it is how the person/character in question approaches both the world and life.
-- also, Se-doms work better with a goal in mind while Ne-doms work better with an actual plan. they can look like each other, but for the Se-dom the ending is more abstract while for the Ne-dom the ending is more concrete even if not necessarily achievable

Ni doms live with a love and fascination to learn (and not just in an academic sense), although the information usually is subconsciously internalized to be utilized practically in the future. they are the ones to store information to use later even if they don't; they like ideas for the sake of ideas as well but they are relatively conscious about how or when or if they'll truly come to be
-- this can be in an academic sense or a memorization sense; Ni-doms can have as good as memories and rely on the past just as much as Si-doms! in particular for Ni-doms though everything is abstracted and is more mentally established rather than concretely supported.
-- even if referential they are conscious of what is and isn't based on internalization vs externalization, which they are naturally do not have a lot of confidence in which is why they are so interested in absorbing new information, because information is something concrete that they can turn abstract in their heads when they learn it

Si doms live with a love and fascination to do and participate, which they immediately try to figure the most practical ways for to do as soon as possible, which they are naturally good at, both in the abstract and concrete ways (as compared to the Ni, who takes longer and is more abstract initially)
-- they can be creative!! in fact when healthily used (and/or matured/developed) they absolutely flourish and work excellently with creativity and new ideas. if anything they can be just as fascinated as the Ne-dom in new ideas, just with less visible verbal engagement as an Ne-dom's enthusiasm/throwing themselves into these conversations/ideas
-- they are also not traditionalists (i will say this over and over again); just that if they mentally establish that something works, then that's what they'll go for and act on because they have internally established it to be reliable. this goes not just for work ethic but also ideas in general - which is why they may be labeled as traditionalists - and which is why many mistyped Si-doms are stubborn in their mbti mistyping, because they have internally established their self-identification to be reliable
-- Si in general is about reliable structure, usually coming out in methods of an emphasis on practicality, not "past experiences" or "memorization"
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intj - very aware of how they feel, make conscious decisions to either ignore or act on them but everything is done with reflective, self-conscious intent
intp - don't really know how they feel, don't really care, everything is much more objective to them

intj - try to avoid situations where they have to do less than their best, aka they try to avoid situations where they are bad at things
intp - really very good (usually, can be considered masterful either from their own or outsider perspective) at what they Want to be good at; relatively apathetic about anything else
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- unhealthy nfjs "emotions are important because i can manipulate others"
- unhealthy nfps "emotions are important but hell no am i gonna let you know any of mine"

telling a te/fi vs an ti/fe "there are more important things than how people feel"...
- ti/fe: "yeah, getting people to worship/hate/react to me is more important"
- te/fi: "i KNOW because MY feelings are more important than others'"
(even this is not how they would literally answer this question, this is how their brain process would work)

Te/Fi users = are able to separate themselves from their own feelings
Ti/Fe users = are able to separate themselves from all feelings in general (not just the self, but also the reaction)
the higher the T, the better "ability" of this (even though it's usually unhealthier in Ts to do this, than Fs)

intjs are more self-contained than intps who are more apathetic
intps look (more) like a mess while intjs feel (more) like a mess (as compared to how intps really feel and how intjs look on the outside)

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